Age Span for Draenei - Made by Adonter

I agree with Nat on this one. Leave the age of your draenei open to interpretation.

The argument that Velen is 25000 years old, and therefore draenei are near-immortal... Uhm, not sure I buy it. Velen is pretty much a special case, and shouldn't be used as "proof" that most draenei are really old. Blizzards intention is most likely that player characters should be pretty young, as quest givers on Azuremyst/Bloodmyst refer to you as "young one" at least once (I think ;3). I'm not trying to cramp anyone's RP here, if you wanna play a millenia-old draenei, by all means, go ahead

I just don't think age is all that an important question to draenei. They simply are. Experience and wisdom counts for far more in their society than just... The length of time you've been in existence.

Awesome XD I managed to post as "Faithra". Yep! That's me ;3

About Draenei and Age..

If I can give my 2 copper about it, I always say: Don't bother. The only thing that is really breaking lore is being born after the Exodar crash. We do not even know the exact time it took between the sacking of Shattrath and the Crash of the Exodar. We also do not know how quick Draenei Age. Although, Lord of the Clans does talk about a Draenei child being as old as an Orc's grandfather or something.. that is the only bit of evidence of Draenei Aging and that is a novel, those are not official lore as those get retconned all the time.

Also, about the travel taking 'ten generations'. When we talk about generations in the real world we don't talk about the average life span of people, we talk about important cultural changes. For example: The generation of the 60s and 70s, the generation of the 80s, the current generation, etcetera. Cultural things that put the people apart because of the period they grew up in. That means that, even in a human lifespan, we can have 5 generations in 1 lifespan. Now, if we assume all else equal that will mean that a 25.000 year trip taking 10 generations, 5 generations for each lifespan, that the average Draenei lifespan will be 12.500 years.

Now, I do not support or use that number. All I want to say is: Do you really think a species that gets that old really gives anything about the biological age of someone? Or would they more focus on their mental age, their wisdom and insights? And maybe, just maybe take into account the situation/time they were born and grew up in?

And that is how I always use Draenei Age, vaguely, talking about the time they grew up in as a measuring of age and not their actual number of years.

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BTW Adonter, I'm not bashing your age post. When it comes to actually trying to create an age group I think you come pretty darn close. I just feel that the time growing up to adulthood is much too long. That assumes not one Draenei that was born on Draenor is actually an adult already. That is kind of illogical because why would a race, that is used to flee from the Legion, stay and fight if the lands they stand on were not so important for them because they were born there.

Hello.

I'm only going to post two links here. One that appears to be forgotten.
First hand information directly from blizzard:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/townhall/draenei.html
If you want to follow the Warcraft storyline the Eredar race is 25,000 years old.
There are no Draenei or Eredar older then this.

The second link is about how hard it is to play an immortal character.
Now Blizzard doesn't do role playing tips or thoughts. Therefor there are no first hand info on how to play a Draenei.
But this site presents the difficulties of playing a timeless character quite well:
http://www.wow.com/2008/10/05/all-the-worlds-a-stage-so-you-want-to-be-a-draenei/
A big part of this concerns that it is impossible for a human mind to comprehend an immortal life.
And since you cant remotely understand it you cant act it.

Of course, nothing is cut in stone and the most important thing is that everyone are having a good time.
And you can bend the information from Blizzard and role playing standers in a full circle to achieve this.
I myself solve the problem by playing very young chars who never took a part in the old timeless ways.

Grimsain wrote:I'm only going to post two links here. One that appears to be forgotten.
First hand information directly from blizzard:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/townhall/draenei.html
If you want to follow the Warcraft storyline the Eredar race is 25,000 years old.
There are no Draenei or Eredar older then this.

I thought 25,000 years ago when was the Burning Legion came, and that they had already been around thousands of years before that.
Anyway, the way I see it, you don't really need an exact age when creating a Draenei, just base how old you are around what you have seen and done, so, if you were born on Argus, you don't need to say, I am 26,752 years old and 6 months, you just need to hint where you born. "Ah...I remember Argus in all it's glory, before the Legion came." This implies that you were around on Argus and therefore must be that old.

The burning legion was created by Sargeras.
He was created by the titans as a defender of the universe.
After eons of doing his job he found that normality is chaos and released all evil he had captured.
(Among them where the dredlords.)
At some point he found and corrupted Argus and its inhabitants the Eredar.
The first to fall to the corruption was Kiljaden and Archimond.
Two friends of Velen who he him self resisted Sargeras temptations of unlimited power.
Some of the Eredar led by Velen fled Argus and renamed them self The Draenei (The exiled once).

Before 25 000 years ago according to the blizzard lore the Eredar did not exist.
Of course you are free to change the story too what ever fits the character you want to play.

I find that the best explanation is that 25,000 years ago the Eredar achieved everlasting life and good health.
That would give them at least 10,000 years to reform their society to fit such a long lifespan, before Sargeras came.

Grimsain wrote:The burning legion was created by Sargeras.
He was created by the titans as a defender of the universe.
After eons of doing his job he found that normality is chaos and released all evil he had captured.
(Among them where the dredlords.)
At some point he found and corrupted Argus and its inhabitants the Eredar.
The first to fall to the corruption was Kiljaden and Archimond.
Two friends of Velen who he him self resisted Sargeras temptations of unlimited power.
Some of the Eredar led by Velen fled Argus and renamed them self The Draenei (The exiled once).

Before 25 000 years ago according to the blizzard lore the Eredar did not exist.
Of course you are free to change the story too what ever fits the character you want to play.

I find that the best explanation is that 25,000 years ago the Eredar achieved everlasting life and good health.
That would give them at least 10,000 years to reform their society to fit such a long lifespan, before Sargeras came.

I thought Sargeras came 25,000 years ago?

Also, in your picture, is that you?

Nopp, Sargeras attacked Argus sometime between 25,000 and 10,000 years ago.

But in those 15,000 years the Eredar:
1. Built their civilization.
2. Lived long enough for everyone to forget the passage of time.
3. Get corrupted.
4. Lost the war with the demons.
5. Flee and find Dreanor.
6. Build and lose that civilization to the demons/orcs.

(Yes its me)

Grimsain wrote:(Yes its me)

Uh...

Personally I think everyone should just die and become death knights *nods* Think of the benifits
-Immortal as long as you keep a good maintenace routine
-No more living/dead wars
-Not affected by living issues such as breathing, eating, drinking
-If you don't like a part of you self, just rip off and replace
-Your own personalised runeblade and ghoul
And many more!


If Arthas put me in charge of advertising for the scrouge I could see the recruitment rates being a lot more then it currently is *nods*

Antadurunnu wrote:Personally I think everyone should just die and become death knights *nods* Think of the benifits
-Immortal as long as you keep a good maintenace routine
-No more living/dead wars
-Not affected by living issues such as breathing, eating, drinking
-If you don't like a part of you self, just rip off and replace
-Your own personalised runeblade and ghoul
And many more!


If Arthas put me in charge of advertising for the scrouge I could see the recruitment rates being a lot more then it currently is *nods*

This is the hour of the Forsake.... uh.

Tea, anyone?

I think it was in Rise of the Horde by Christie Golden , during a conversation between Thralls father Durotan and the Draenei hunting party lead by Restalaan, who saved Durotan from a crazed ogre, that life span was mentioned. It was said to be many orc generations, not immortal. To my understanding Velen is ancient counting his life span in millennia; therefore you have a personal choice, be part of the Argus survivors or the next generations of Draenei.
I think regardless of your choice, the Draenei have the most interesting history of any race.

I have enjoyed reading your forum today, I am interested in role-playing and your site has increased that interest.

/thank you

Io, EU Arathor

Velens flight from Argus was Twenty-five thousand years ago /blush